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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by jenneandrews</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2688</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenneandrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 08:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes-- and venting is one thing, and being oblivious or indifferent to the suffering one is inflicting by indulging one&#039;s animal compulsion, another...xxxj]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8211; and venting is one thing, and being oblivious or indifferent to the suffering one is inflicting by indulging one&#8217;s animal compulsion, another&#8230;xxxj</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by Laurie Blair</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurie Blair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Tis true...I don&#039;t QUITE understand why you wouldn&#039;t know where your pregnant goat went (how big is her property??!!)  And a shame the kid was unattended out there long enough to be killed by predators.  I hope this blogger takes stock, now, of the situation, and rethinks some things.  Sometimes, it&#039;s what you gotta do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tis true&#8230;I don&#8217;t QUITE understand why you wouldn&#8217;t know where your pregnant goat went (how big is her property??!!)  And a shame the kid was unattended out there long enough to be killed by predators.  I hope this blogger takes stock, now, of the situation, and rethinks some things.  Sometimes, it&#8217;s what you gotta do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by jenneandrews</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenneandrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Laurie-- so good to hear from you. Thank you for putting so much thought and honesty into your response.  Personally I do not feel that there is any excuse for having so many animals that when one of them is in labor, the person they depend upon is unaware of it.  I can&#039;t even fathom it.  It was that an animal went unattended for hours on end with a dystocia-- blockage/inability to deliver, and the owner writes about it as if it&#039;s just par for the course.  And, it was the number of animals in some kind of difficulty.  In the beginning of this post, I was merely referencing her situation, which she posted, i.e. she put herself out there, as an entry point into my own-- especially because I could relate.  All she saw was that my original lead made a joke, i.e., that her animals seemed pregnant on the group plan.  Her response, which you must have read, was to say something so over the top to me that I took off my gloves, as I&#039;ve said in some of the comments.  xxxj]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laurie&#8211; so good to hear from you. Thank you for putting so much thought and honesty into your response.  Personally I do not feel that there is any excuse for having so many animals that when one of them is in labor, the person they depend upon is unaware of it.  I can&#8217;t even fathom it.  It was that an animal went unattended for hours on end with a dystocia&#8211; blockage/inability to deliver, and the owner writes about it as if it&#8217;s just par for the course.  And, it was the number of animals in some kind of difficulty.  In the beginning of this post, I was merely referencing her situation, which she posted, i.e. she put herself out there, as an entry point into my own&#8211; especially because I could relate.  All she saw was that my original lead made a joke, i.e., that her animals seemed pregnant on the group plan.  Her response, which you must have read, was to say something so over the top to me that I took off my gloves, as I&#8217;ve said in some of the comments.  xxxj</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by Laurie Blair</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurie Blair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 13:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jenne, the excerpt from this other blog doesn&#039;t show neglect per se -- at least not to me; it DOES show a &quot;when it rains, it pours&quot; album of husbandry woes.  Mismanagement MAY have a part in this, or too many animals, but it sounds like this poor woman has her hands full, is trying to keep up with it and needs a way to vent!!  I have never owned animals other than cats, and then 3 or 4 at the max, but there have been times when I wanted to tear my hair off because no matter how well I was taking care of them they&#039;d get expensively sick.  Case in point the two I have now -- both rescue cats.  Soon after I got Molly she developed kennel cough, of all things; she was still tiny and one night I lay awake with her in the crook of my arm all night long to monitor her, giving her little sips of tuna water and antibiotics ($300 for that visit, had to borrow from my mom.  Noticed the bill didn&#039;t include the injection of antibiotics -- called them up: &quot;Oh, I guess we didn&#039;t do that after all, so you can start the pills tonight.&quot;  But I digress here.)  Molly pulled through though I had to send Buddy back to his foster mom for a week, either than or lock him in the cellar because he was intent on playing rough with Molly and she was too ill for that.  Shortly after I got him back he developed cat scratch fever.  More vet care.  Things went okay for awhile and then nightmare time -- he got sick with heartworm.  New vet, they worked with me to pull him through and miraculously he did -- I owed them thousands.  Sometimes you just can&#039;t predict who will get sick or when, and sometimes they both -- or all -- do at once, despite your loving care.  (I believe animals are much weaker today than back in my parents&#039; day, probably from chemicals in their food, toxic water, et al.)  You know much more about the big animals than I do so I bow to your statements about mastitis, etc., but it could be that this woman just lost momentum and things got out of hand.

That being said, I am one to campaign against owning too many animals.  I would love to have more -- including goats, which I love.  And I would be a TNR &quot;mom&quot; (trap, neuter and return of ferals) if I had a barn. But two (as you can see) are enough for me to keep up with.   I wish I could do more about the pet (especially cat) population explosion.  A good friend&#039;s daughter&#039;s young female cat is pregnant, and SHE was a kitten they kept from a previous litter (mom became sick and had to have the Dog Warden come to get and presumably destroy her as there was no money for a vet).  There are multiple non-neutered males in the area, and their owners are as much at fault.  I&#039;ve given my friend&#039;s daughter reams of info on lower-cost spay clinics (though I agree it&#039;s still too expensive). I am furious with her.   It sounds like Doug is very passive, and may even subscribe to the &quot;cats are disposable&quot; mindset.  I&#039;d not like to deal with him on this.

Heartbreak, anguish, worry, stress, and empty wallets.  It can happen with two animals, or a hundred-and-two animals.  Surely it is much more likely to happen the more animals you have.  Sometimes it truly IS time to &quot;call it a day.&quot; Maybe this is now for the woman, and she&#039;s coming to terms with it.   I do feel for her, as I feel for you and the awful things you&#039;ve gone through with the animals you&#039;ve loved and diligently care for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenne, the excerpt from this other blog doesn&#8217;t show neglect per se &#8212; at least not to me; it DOES show a &#8220;when it rains, it pours&#8221; album of husbandry woes.  Mismanagement MAY have a part in this, or too many animals, but it sounds like this poor woman has her hands full, is trying to keep up with it and needs a way to vent!!  I have never owned animals other than cats, and then 3 or 4 at the max, but there have been times when I wanted to tear my hair off because no matter how well I was taking care of them they&#8217;d get expensively sick.  Case in point the two I have now &#8212; both rescue cats.  Soon after I got Molly she developed kennel cough, of all things; she was still tiny and one night I lay awake with her in the crook of my arm all night long to monitor her, giving her little sips of tuna water and antibiotics ($300 for that visit, had to borrow from my mom.  Noticed the bill didn&#8217;t include the injection of antibiotics &#8212; called them up: &#8220;Oh, I guess we didn&#8217;t do that after all, so you can start the pills tonight.&#8221;  But I digress here.)  Molly pulled through though I had to send Buddy back to his foster mom for a week, either than or lock him in the cellar because he was intent on playing rough with Molly and she was too ill for that.  Shortly after I got him back he developed cat scratch fever.  More vet care.  Things went okay for awhile and then nightmare time &#8212; he got sick with heartworm.  New vet, they worked with me to pull him through and miraculously he did &#8212; I owed them thousands.  Sometimes you just can&#8217;t predict who will get sick or when, and sometimes they both &#8212; or all &#8212; do at once, despite your loving care.  (I believe animals are much weaker today than back in my parents&#8217; day, probably from chemicals in their food, toxic water, et al.)  You know much more about the big animals than I do so I bow to your statements about mastitis, etc., but it could be that this woman just lost momentum and things got out of hand.</p>
<p>That being said, I am one to campaign against owning too many animals.  I would love to have more &#8212; including goats, which I love.  And I would be a TNR &#8220;mom&#8221; (trap, neuter and return of ferals) if I had a barn. But two (as you can see) are enough for me to keep up with.   I wish I could do more about the pet (especially cat) population explosion.  A good friend&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s young female cat is pregnant, and SHE was a kitten they kept from a previous litter (mom became sick and had to have the Dog Warden come to get and presumably destroy her as there was no money for a vet).  There are multiple non-neutered males in the area, and their owners are as much at fault.  I&#8217;ve given my friend&#8217;s daughter reams of info on lower-cost spay clinics (though I agree it&#8217;s still too expensive). I am furious with her.   It sounds like Doug is very passive, and may even subscribe to the &#8220;cats are disposable&#8221; mindset.  I&#8217;d not like to deal with him on this.</p>
<p>Heartbreak, anguish, worry, stress, and empty wallets.  It can happen with two animals, or a hundred-and-two animals.  Surely it is much more likely to happen the more animals you have.  Sometimes it truly IS time to &#8220;call it a day.&#8221; Maybe this is now for the woman, and she&#8217;s coming to terms with it.   I do feel for her, as I feel for you and the awful things you&#8217;ve gone through with the animals you&#8217;ve loved and diligently care for.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by jenneandrews</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenneandrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 02:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never state that Ms. Perin is a hoarder, and she is the one who states in her post that it&#039;s time to call it quits and then lists her many difficulties around the welfare of her animals.  I do raise general questions about caprine management practices but I do  not state that she mismanages her herd. I share my own knowledge about goats and their welfare post kidding.   This is a post about over-breeding, with a brief mention of hoarding behavior, neglect of cats,  and getting in over your head.  I speak to my experience, and make allegations about other entities I am familiar with who can speak for themselves.  I am not the only person who has been concerned by the frequency of Ms. Perin&#039;s problems with her goats and those problems include at least two cases of mastitis she has referred to, goats rejecting kids, does and kids getting trapped in fencing,being housed with cattle, predation and the consequences of the failure to de-horn.  It would be irresponsible not to express some concern for these things, in my view.

In any event, this was a far different post before Ms. Perin did issue a personal attack upon me by stating, in her original comment to me on this blog, that I was &quot;whining about (my) mobility loss&quot; and committing a very high level of insensitivity by making that comment, to say the least. That was a direct challenge to me to take my gloves off and I did.  When people post online what they have to say is fair game for anyone.  She doesn&#039;t have to read my blog, and neither do you.  I&#039;m doing you a favor in posting your comment to me and I suggest you mind your own business from now on.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never state that Ms. Perin is a hoarder, and she is the one who states in her post that it&#8217;s time to call it quits and then lists her many difficulties around the welfare of her animals.  I do raise general questions about caprine management practices but I do  not state that she mismanages her herd. I share my own knowledge about goats and their welfare post kidding.   This is a post about over-breeding, with a brief mention of hoarding behavior, neglect of cats,  and getting in over your head.  I speak to my experience, and make allegations about other entities I am familiar with who can speak for themselves.  I am not the only person who has been concerned by the frequency of Ms. Perin&#8217;s problems with her goats and those problems include at least two cases of mastitis she has referred to, goats rejecting kids, does and kids getting trapped in fencing,being housed with cattle, predation and the consequences of the failure to de-horn.  It would be irresponsible not to express some concern for these things, in my view.</p>
<p>In any event, this was a far different post before Ms. Perin did issue a personal attack upon me by stating, in her original comment to me on this blog, that I was &#8220;whining about (my) mobility loss&#8221; and committing a very high level of insensitivity by making that comment, to say the least. That was a direct challenge to me to take my gloves off and I did.  When people post online what they have to say is fair game for anyone.  She doesn&#8217;t have to read my blog, and neither do you.  I&#8217;m doing you a favor in posting your comment to me and I suggest you mind your own business from now on.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by Alexander MacKechnie</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexander MacKechnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 21:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How dare you attack a very responsible and caring farmer.  Do not place her in the realm of hoarders.  Are you really serious in questioning the care of Teresa&#039;s animals because they are being treated for worms, she&#039;s had a predator attack and a goat with a hernia?  ALL farm animals pick up worms at some point and most farm animals are on a deworming program, everywhere in the United States. Teresa certainly has a very good deworming program in place, in accordance with her veterinarian&#039;s instructions and her own extensive knowledge.  Predator attacks are the way of life.  No matter how you try to create a safe haven for farm animals something is going to get in and get them sometime.  It may be a coyote, it may be a dog or it may even be an irresponsible hunter that mistakes your animal for a deer.  As far as horns...are you kidding me?  Goats use their horns as temperature regulators.  Many people dehorn but it isn&#039;t always the best for the animal. You cannot stop goats from being goats.  They are rough with each other at times.  Teresa&#039;s goats are some the happiest, most loved creatures around, and she&#039;s very careful to keep her herd at a good level for her acreage and her abilities.  

And madam, you DID whine about your disability.  I can say that to you because I have a serious disability too and I don&#039;t whine about it.  Mentioning that you whined is NOT a personal attack on you.  Whine about yours all you want but don&#039;t attack someone because YOU are disabled.  You brought it up, not she.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare you attack a very responsible and caring farmer.  Do not place her in the realm of hoarders.  Are you really serious in questioning the care of Teresa&#8217;s animals because they are being treated for worms, she&#8217;s had a predator attack and a goat with a hernia?  ALL farm animals pick up worms at some point and most farm animals are on a deworming program, everywhere in the United States. Teresa certainly has a very good deworming program in place, in accordance with her veterinarian&#8217;s instructions and her own extensive knowledge.  Predator attacks are the way of life.  No matter how you try to create a safe haven for farm animals something is going to get in and get them sometime.  It may be a coyote, it may be a dog or it may even be an irresponsible hunter that mistakes your animal for a deer.  As far as horns&#8230;are you kidding me?  Goats use their horns as temperature regulators.  Many people dehorn but it isn&#8217;t always the best for the animal. You cannot stop goats from being goats.  They are rough with each other at times.  Teresa&#8217;s goats are some the happiest, most loved creatures around, and she&#8217;s very careful to keep her herd at a good level for her acreage and her abilities.  </p>
<p>And madam, you DID whine about your disability.  I can say that to you because I have a serious disability too and I don&#8217;t whine about it.  Mentioning that you whined is NOT a personal attack on you.  Whine about yours all you want but don&#8217;t attack someone because YOU are disabled.  You brought it up, not she.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by jenneandrews</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenneandrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 20:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, as ever, Britton. When we put ourselves online, when our behavior becomes obvious, we are all fair game.  I try to never confront in retaliation precisely because I am prone to doing so,  and the person in question seems not to get it that at the outset, before my several revisions, made after she made her bottom-feeding comment about my mobility loss and that I am disabled, this post was about me, not her. To accommodate her distress I have toned down several of my &quot;loaded&quot; remarks. But given that comment and that she identified herself before I ever did, turn-about is fair play.  xxxj]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, as ever, Britton. When we put ourselves online, when our behavior becomes obvious, we are all fair game.  I try to never confront in retaliation precisely because I am prone to doing so,  and the person in question seems not to get it that at the outset, before my several revisions, made after she made her bottom-feeding comment about my mobility loss and that I am disabled, this post was about me, not her. To accommodate her distress I have toned down several of my &#8220;loaded&#8221; remarks. But given that comment and that she identified herself before I ever did, turn-about is fair play.  xxxj</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by Britton Minor</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Britton Minor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heartbreaking--how it is so easy to love animals, and so difficult to adequately care for them. Good intentions often go awry, like when well-meaning parents buy their children animals for certain holidays without considering the care and cost involved. I realize this post is a bigger one...and a loaded one, even...but still, my heart goes out to you, and to Teresa--for though you differ in opinion, I know that you both have great love for creatures. May you both find peace-with each other, and with your own journeys. Keep the animals in place number one--they deserve it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heartbreaking&#8211;how it is so easy to love animals, and so difficult to adequately care for them. Good intentions often go awry, like when well-meaning parents buy their children animals for certain holidays without considering the care and cost involved. I realize this post is a bigger one&#8230;and a loaded one, even&#8230;but still, my heart goes out to you, and to Teresa&#8211;for though you differ in opinion, I know that you both have great love for creatures. May you both find peace-with each other, and with your own journeys. Keep the animals in place number one&#8211;they deserve it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liar Liar&#8230; Fight Fire with Fire&#8230; by jenneandrews</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/24/liar-liar/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenneandrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 04:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for weighing in~!  It&#039;s reassuring to read your comment, although the race at this point does seem close.  I feel that those of us who don&#039;t want a liar for a president need to step up however and whenever we can. xj]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for weighing in~!  It&#8217;s reassuring to read your comment, although the race at this point does seem close.  I feel that those of us who don&#8217;t want a liar for a president need to step up however and whenever we can. xj</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Loving and Owning Animals Turns the Corner&#8230; by jenneandrews</title>
		<link>http://loquaciouslyyours.com/2012/05/27/when-loving-and-owning-animals-turns-the-corner/#comment-2679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenneandrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 04:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m happy to post this comment.  It is apparent to me from reading your post that you are over your head, at the animals&#039; expense, or you wouldn&#039;t have kids carried off by predators, this goat with a hernia, that goat rejecting her kid, another one about to expire from worms, goats all over your house and generally, daily disasters.  Worms?  Moreover, since I began reading your blog some time back I asked myself from time to time what becomes of the bucklings you produce; I&#039;m sure you know that they often end up in the stew pot if they go to auction, which is, I believe, where you&#039;ve taken yours.  &lt;strong&gt;I didn&#039;t shirk from addressing my own excesses in my post, which began as a response on your blog to someone I have had decent interaction with to date and felt I could be direct with, and I would say that publicly lambasting me for speaking to a compulsion which you and I clearly share and have shared is uncivil and should have either been done here or in a message.&lt;/strong&gt;  Hence, I&#039;ve blocked you on Facebook.  &lt;strong&gt;

But I particularly  don&#039;t need a &quot;friend&quot; who would stoop so low as to state, to a disabled person and highly regarded poet, &quot;If you want to whine about your situation and feel sorry for your loss of mobility in a riding accident, etc. .&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; That you would make such a comment, that someone referring to her own disability is &quot;whining,&quot;  is vindictive and it escalates and degrades the dialogue.I believe that you were the one who said you were in over your head and &quot;whined&quot; in the post I read and certainly have a right to refer to as a spring board to my own.  Have at me; I don&#039;t care.

Let me close by saying that it is becoming widely known that &lt;strong&gt;animal hoarders&lt;/strong&gt; have substantive psychiatric issues and need intervention.  &lt;strong&gt;Perhaps you should take my comments to heart &lt;strong&gt;before someone in your county, your vet, perhaps, determines that having an overpopulated, run down farm with sick animals everywhere is serious enough to constitute violation of Iowa&#039;s statutory prohibitions against animal hoarding&lt;/strong&gt;.   I was happy to keep you anonymous in my post, and in sharing my link.  You, however, evidently wish for these things to be publicized, and so be it. 

BTW, my comment about breeding &quot;on a group plan&quot; was a joke, and I was also referring to myself.  Do you or do you not breed your does every year, overwhelming yourself with caretaking?  My understanding of a working goat farm is that people don&#039;t just breed to have cute kids around, and they don&#039;t breed if they have to put their goats in with their other livestock, and if they lack the resources for triage or the right fencing.  They don&#039;t have kids getting stuck in fences, carried off by coyotes, wormy does, does whose mastitis goes untreated until it&#039;s too late, and they de-horn so that no one gets a &quot;hernia.&quot; At least, according to my old goat vet, to whom I referred you sometime back. 

The friend who mentored me in the goat department years ago had a beautiful herd of Saanens, all screened for CAE, all culled to be good milkers and have good conformation, and she didn&#039;t have the daily crises you do and that I did when I wanted to be a breeder/farmer-- kind of like you, in your About page.  

As noted, when I had dogs I couldn&#039;t properly take care of I was &quot;attacked&quot; by &quot;insensitive&quot; fellow Golden people.  As I say in my post, I had it coming.  And now, so do they, as they each live in a glass house and it&#039;s appropriate to stand up for oneself, as you did to a point.  What you said to me re my &quot;whining&quot; about my mobility loss is so far below the belt I have no problem taking my gloves off now.  It is tantamount to my making a crack about someone&#039;s &quot;challenged&quot; child, or marriage on the rocks, or some other little personal gem I might happen to know about, and throwing the most painful thing in their lives up in their faces. 

Finally, how is paraphrasing the very thing you said about yourself on your blog in the intro to my post insulting you?  I think I&#039;ve given you some free press.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to post this comment.  It is apparent to me from reading your post that you are over your head, at the animals&#8217; expense, or you wouldn&#8217;t have kids carried off by predators, this goat with a hernia, that goat rejecting her kid, another one about to expire from worms, goats all over your house and generally, daily disasters.  Worms?  Moreover, since I began reading your blog some time back I asked myself from time to time what becomes of the bucklings you produce; I&#8217;m sure you know that they often end up in the stew pot if they go to auction, which is, I believe, where you&#8217;ve taken yours.  <strong>I didn&#8217;t shirk from addressing my own excesses in my post, which began as a response on your blog to someone I have had decent interaction with to date and felt I could be direct with, and I would say that publicly lambasting me for speaking to a compulsion which you and I clearly share and have shared is uncivil and should have either been done here or in a message.</strong>  Hence, I&#8217;ve blocked you on Facebook.  <strong></p>
<p>But I particularly  don&#8217;t need a &#8220;friend&#8221; who would stoop so low as to state, to a disabled person and highly regarded poet, &#8220;If you want to whine about your situation and feel sorry for your loss of mobility in a riding accident, etc. .&#8221;</strong> That you would make such a comment, that someone referring to her own disability is &#8220;whining,&#8221;  is vindictive and it escalates and degrades the dialogue.I believe that you were the one who said you were in over your head and &#8220;whined&#8221; in the post I read and certainly have a right to refer to as a spring board to my own.  Have at me; I don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Let me close by saying that it is becoming widely known that <strong>animal hoarders</strong> have substantive psychiatric issues and need intervention.  <strong>Perhaps you should take my comments to heart </strong><strong>before someone in your county, your vet, perhaps, determines that having an overpopulated, run down farm with sick animals everywhere is serious enough to constitute violation of Iowa&#8217;s statutory prohibitions against animal hoarding</strong>.   I was happy to keep you anonymous in my post, and in sharing my link.  You, however, evidently wish for these things to be publicized, and so be it. </p>
<p>BTW, my comment about breeding &#8220;on a group plan&#8221; was a joke, and I was also referring to myself.  Do you or do you not breed your does every year, overwhelming yourself with caretaking?  My understanding of a working goat farm is that people don&#8217;t just breed to have cute kids around, and they don&#8217;t breed if they have to put their goats in with their other livestock, and if they lack the resources for triage or the right fencing.  They don&#8217;t have kids getting stuck in fences, carried off by coyotes, wormy does, does whose mastitis goes untreated until it&#8217;s too late, and they de-horn so that no one gets a &#8220;hernia.&#8221; At least, according to my old goat vet, to whom I referred you sometime back. </p>
<p>The friend who mentored me in the goat department years ago had a beautiful herd of Saanens, all screened for CAE, all culled to be good milkers and have good conformation, and she didn&#8217;t have the daily crises you do and that I did when I wanted to be a breeder/farmer&#8211; kind of like you, in your About page.  </p>
<p>As noted, when I had dogs I couldn&#8217;t properly take care of I was &#8220;attacked&#8221; by &#8220;insensitive&#8221; fellow Golden people.  As I say in my post, I had it coming.  And now, so do they, as they each live in a glass house and it&#8217;s appropriate to stand up for oneself, as you did to a point.  What you said to me re my &#8220;whining&#8221; about my mobility loss is so far below the belt I have no problem taking my gloves off now.  It is tantamount to my making a crack about someone&#8217;s &#8220;challenged&#8221; child, or marriage on the rocks, or some other little personal gem I might happen to know about, and throwing the most painful thing in their lives up in their faces. </p>
<p>Finally, how is paraphrasing the very thing you said about yourself on your blog in the intro to my post insulting you?  I think I&#8217;ve given you some free press.   </p>
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